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Ministering to Our Past Selves with Dr Devon Price
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Ministering to Our Past Selves with Dr Devon Price

Breaking down systemic shame to be truly empathetic people

Today I’m chatting with someone I profoundly admire and whose ethics and social awareness are very much aligned with my own. Dr. Devon Price is a social psychologist, writer, and professor at Loyola University Chicago. He is the author of the book "Laziness Does Not Exist," which challenges common assumptions about motivation and productivity. Price as wrote “Unmasking Autism: Discovering the New Faces of Neurodiversity” which I was honored to be interviewed for. You can find my interview on pages 164-167. Dr. Price's research focuses on social inequality, mental health, and the impact of social media on well-being. He has written for numerous publications, including The New York Times, The Guardian, and Scientific American. In addition to his academic work, Dr. Price is also a public speaker and advocate for disability justice, mental health, and LGBTQ+ rights.


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This Week’s Show Notes:

  • When did you (Dr Devon Price) find out you are Autistic + Trans?

  • What was your focus in Undergrad and Grad School?

  • How do people go about changing their mind and world views?

  • The Autistic urge to study people.

  • “Systemic Shame” the current working title of Dr. Price’s next book.

  • How Dr. Price became an author.

  • How I got into writing journals.

  • I still have a hard time believing I am an author, even with 7 published works and 1.2 million sold.

  • Where there is still more to be researched in Shame, beyond where Brene Brown has gone thus far?

  • My partner’s pursuit of debunking obesity and critiquing the health industry’s fat-phobic rhetoric.

  • Being “ministers to our past selves” through our research and writing.

  • The core demographics of our books.

  • How Dr. Price entered professorship and his critique of academia.

  • How has being autistic informed your position as an educator and how you treat and guide your students?

  • List #10 from 52 Lists for Bravery: List the Dreams you Have for Others

  • The value of contradictions

  • Wanting to control others experiences and how to detach from that.

  • Distinguishing the difference of need vs want, should vs wish.

  • Addiction within the neuro-divergent community.

  • What is your relationship with the great indoors?

  • Insecurities and how the pandemic helped to challenge them.

  • Performative vs. Performance.

  • The Importance of trying on new identities.

  • Play as an essential challenge against shame.

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THESE THINGS NOW by Moorea Seal
52 Lists with Moorea Seal
From the author of the best selling guided journal series 'The 52 Lists Project' comes a podcast to help you rewrite your personal narrative, one list at a time. Join Moorea Seal as she chats with fascinating people who share stories of profound personal growth and peeks into their own journals.
A few notable guests: #1 Business Podcaster and NYT best-selling author of Financial Feminist, Tori Dunlap. Autism and ADHD author and artist Morgan harper Nichols. Poet, Actress, Model and Author Arielle Estoria. Author, Dr, and trans & disability activist Dr. Devon Price.